oh there are the. you told people to reduce detroit independents. which means that we need to clear the pits of the risk with. julian assange in his own words from internet freedom to cable gave our t. sits down with the wiki leaks founder inside of the ecuadorian embassy in london hear his thoughts straight ahead. as democrats and republicans argue over the fiscal cliff here in washington could this be just another attempt by the g.o.p. to shoot santa claus i'll explain what i'm talking about and why you can read more about it in hustler magazine in just a moment. porn it's a multibillion dollar business here in the u.s. while many enjoy watching porn it appears adult film entertains entertainment stars

are happier and have a higher self esteem than most women why is this we'll speak with an adult perfect film performer to get some answers. it's friday november thirtieth eight pm in washington d.c. meghan lopez and you're watching r.t. . starting off this hour he's the man who's made a name for himself by sharing explosive government leaks on a secret spilling website known as wiki leaks and is now facing the consequences for those data drops lovemore hatim the press and public can't seem to get enough of wiki leaks co-founder julian assigned his tale after all as one of classified documents innovating authorities in other words the perfect made for t.v. drama and this case is far from over r.t. international had a chance to sit down with the man himself to find out the latest developments in

his political standoff here's part of that interview with artie's laura smith. julian you're saying basically in your book that the internet can in slave us but the internet is just a thing right it's a soulless piece of equipment who are the real in slavers. the people who control the interception of the internet and to some degree also physically control the big dollar warehouses and international fiber optic lines so we all think of the internet as some kind of potomac rome where we can throw out ideas and communications and when pagers and books and they exist somewhere out there actually they exist on web servers in new york nergal your in beijing and information comes to us through satellite connections or through fiber optic cables so whoever physically controls this controls the realm of our ideas and communications and whoever is able to sit on those communications channels can

intercept entire nations and that's the new game in town as far as state spying is concerned intercepting entire nations not individuals and yes this sounds like a kind of futuristic scenario but you're saying that if you just already have i mean the united states national security agency has been doing this for some thirty twenty years but now it's spread to even mid-size nations even gadhafi libya was employing the eagle system which is produced by french company emesis. push there in two thousand and nine advertised in its internal documentation as a nationwide interception system so so what's happened over the last ten years is a every decreasing costs of intercepting each individual now to the degree where is cheaper to intercept every individual than it is to pick particular people to spot on and what's the what's the alternative this sort of utopian alternative that you would put forward so the token alternative is to try and gain independence for

this for the internet to sort of clear independence versus the rest of the world and that's really quite important because if you think about what is human civilization that makes it clear to centrally human and civilized it is our shared knowledge that intellectual knowledge. it's something we're all putting on to the internet and so if we can try and decouple that from. the brute nature of states and their cronies then i think we really have hope for a global civilization if on the other hand the mere security guards you know the people who control the guns are able to take control of our intellectual life take control of all the ways in which we communicate to each other then of course you can see how dreadfully outcome will be for the war just happened to one nation it will happen to every nation at once it is happening to the nation at once as far as

spying is concerned because now every nation is merging its society we've internet infrastructure and in what way are we as source of internet users if you like and i exclude you from that obviously but kind of willingly collaborating with these collectors of personal data you know we all have a facebook account we all have telephones which can be tracks but people think well yeah i use facebook and maybe the f.b.i. if they made a request could come and get it and everyone is much more aware of it now of course because of patricia's but that's not the problem the problem is that all the time everyone nearly everything they do on the internet is permanently recorded every web search do you know what you were thinking one year two days three months ago so you don't know but google knows it remembers the national security agency intercepts the request if it flowed over u.s. border it knows will be. enough with security agency which. was the research head of the national security agency's signals intelligence division

describes this as turning key to tell it terrorism that all the infrastructure has been built for absolute totalitarianism it's just a matter of turning the key and actually the case has already been to do with it and it is now affecting people who are targeted for us drone strikes organizations like wiki leaks. national security reporters who are having their sources investigated is already partly to and the question is would go all the way no r t certainly isn't the only outlet with an eye on a saw inch c.n.n. host erin burnett recently interviewed the man behind wiki leaks to talk about his new book cypherpunks but it didn't exactly go as planned i want to start by asking you something in the very beginning of your book that really shocked me you said the internet is a threat to human civilization and i thought saw that and i thought but the

internet is the tool by which to julian assange to become one of the world's most controversial people where you've published all this information why is the internet bad. oh here's a book here is world it's all aback as well that quote looks like that interview got off to the wrong foot and it only escalated from there. period a situation where the i don't agree to talk about the surveillance really in the situ for the fun story maybe burnette should be talking more about the surveillance state her network is after all c.n.n. is beginning to resemble our tina many respects with all of its coverage of bradley manning domestic drones and cyber security now r.t. america had a chance to collaborate with our sister station r.t. international to pose a few questions to us launch here's one of the questions we here in d.c. wanted answered in particular and one that our viewers have asked numerous times with the increasing war on whistleblowers we wanted to know if there could ever be

another cable gate with a kleenex you know what was the time. when you go into it but hopefully earlier rather than later i mean do you feel when you when we he's making these releases you have as knowledgeable as you have. cable guy who's extraordinary publishes peter told month it is the most significant because previously from the iraq war those four hundred thousand documents showing one hundred or one hundred thousand people being killed and precisely how that was also very significant but no one has done anything as significant as that since but. there are hopefully. those the will continue successes of wiki leaks. shouldn't be viewed merely as a demonstration of our organizations for reality or the realty of the activist

community on the internet. they are also a function of this hoarding of information. by these national security states you know the reason that there was so much information to leak the reason it could be leaked all at once is because they had hoarded so much why had they hoarded so much wealth to gain extra power through knowledge they want to their own knowledge internally to be easily accessible to their people to be searchable so there's much power to be extracted from it as possible. the you know we here exude attempts to redress the imbalance of power by taking what's inside these very powerful institutions and giving them to. the commons people in general so we can understand how world works and stop takeover by these powerful institutions but it's

a function of how much knowledge these powerful institutions have accumulated you know next week marks the two year mark since joining us on it gave himself up to british authorities and we'll continue to keep you posted on this story as it develops. when you think of hustler magazine what comes to mind most likely the answer is naked women you probably wouldn't think of a magazine of this in particular magazine as an alternative new source or a platform for free speech but over the here is hustler magazine has made a name for itself in the realm of erotica but also in pushing the limits when it comes to first amendment rights between the pages of adult entertainment real substance has in the past made its way into the magazine the december issue of the magazine features an article coauthored by tom hartman the host of the big picture here on our t.v. as well as big picture producer sam sachs it's called who shot santa and it speaks

about the incentive system democrats have set up to earn public support and how republicans are attempting to sabotage that strategy here now to explain more about this article as well as their decision to have it published in hustler magazine tom hartman and sam sacks who welcome gentlemen so first off let's go ahead and address that question what made you want to publish it in a magazine that is well known for being an adult entertainment magazine so we both write a lot of things for publications like coulter and the truth and you know published . other large venues that generally are not read by joe six-pack and hustler magazine if you want to reach middle america if you want to reach the the average middle class joe six-pack guy out there was one of the best place to do it and larry flynt has been fighting a progressive fight i mean for a long long time in one thousand nine hundred eighty to get all the way the supreme court and won in a case you know when jerry falwell sued him so. this that you know there's several men's magazines that have been out in front in that in that arena for

a lot of years just want to so how did you come about coming with this article in particular for this magazine in particular were you approached by him or was he approached you guys with this idea well i had written an article about. the santa clause third you're going to skip to santa clause three and a number of years ago and the folks at hustler i've written for them a couple of times they've excerpted from a couple of my books in fact we're just experience for me with richard this was maybe three years ago when my book screwed came out and they excerpted a chapter from a piece a piece of a chapter and on the front cover it said get screwed by thom hartmann and so. that's you know that was the cover us literary maybe cover. but it was very well received in there was a lot of very positive feedback from middle class folks so you know they contacted us and said you know can you revisit this santa clause thing and. sam has been

writing on this topic and so we you know it's a good opportunity because you talk about it in the intro alternative media here i mean i did score we're trying to address a major problem with the middle class in america right now and we need to get that message out to as many people as as we can and not just people who read the new york times the wall street journal or whatever but also people who read hustler magazine you know it's and i mean i think that is what this magazine does here is actually a copy if we could go ahead and zoom in on that here's a copy of the december issue and as you can see right there it says who shot santa claus the article is right here in the center along with a bunch of things that i just can't show you guys for sake of this is a news program but you guys have done as you are saying that it does reach a certain audience that you aren't going to get and what i do know is also that this magazine and others makes that in the way to congressional offices do you think that they just throw it away or do you hope that somebody will read your article i know for a fact that they don't throw away i used to work on the hill for two years and once

a month be hausler magazine would come. you know i can remember one day when i was. in the office and everything i look at our poll of in turn is there and they just have this magazine up and they're looking. it's not there and you guys can be going to congressional office of the so they just read the articles. take it home even though it's not the yankee i didn't see that that is the picture in the magazine those go to every every office larry flynt make sure to send it to every office on capitol hill been there is a lot of relevant political information in it in every issue actually and and you know when you when you open the segment you were talking about the democratic strategy now the republicans are trying to blow it up it's really kind of the other way around democrats have been. you know historically or certainly since since f.d.r. selection democrats have been providing not just what people wanted but what people needed you know the democratic programs like social security medicare the minimum

wage the right to unionize these what the republicans refer to as gifts these are the things that created the american middle class you know one of the first and largest middle classes in literally in the history of modern society and and the republicans been trying to take that down since the thirty's and they finally came up with a strategy in the mid seventy's and seventy six to do it in ski came up with a strategy and it got implemented in one nine hundred eighty by the reagan administration and the republicans have been playing that game ever since and that's what the article is so let's go ahead and toss to i have a couple of sound bites for you guys that are from a couple of republicans that i spoke after at the twenty twelve election about this so-called gifts program and then we'll get into the meat and potatoes of your article and really what you were trying to deal with from the head. conservatism in my humble opinion did not loose last night it's just very difficult to beat santa

claus it is practically impossible to beat santa claus people are not going to vote against santa claus there are fifty percent of the voting public who want stuff. they want things and who is going to give them things president obama he knows it and he ran on it. so here we are talking about and they're talking about these things this stuff that they're dealing with let's go ahead and then breakdown this to santa claus theory that you broke down and hostler magazine break it down for the average joe for me well it's funny that they're talking rush limbaugh specifically uses the word santa clause because in a way that's that's a misnomer i mean we use that in the article because it's a good way to get across these ideas but that's kind of belittling what democrats have done since since the great depression really and it's the same language that you'd win in ski uses in one thousand nine hundred six when he writes this op ed

called the two santa claus theory which basically asserts that democrats have achieved political success because they're giving people things such as social as talked about for security unemployment insurance later medicare and everything like that and if a party is running on these things people tend to vote for them so if republicans are saying we can't afford them we can't do that they end up acting like the party of scrooge and nobody really wants to vote for the party of scrooge so when it's key puts forward this this idea that says well republicans need to act like santa claus to him the best way they can do that is by giving people tax cuts give people tax cuts never wait for waiver from the tax cuts tax cuts tax cuts and we've seen that is the strategy republicans have have carried forward ever since then all the way to today with the fiscal cliff and everything and it actually was a fair you know for its time it was the right suggestion if you're a republican and you're trying to get power because in the seventy's because of the very high inflation rates of the seventy's

a lot of people who were you know middle class and very little in federal income taxes as they started moving up the bracket was called bracket creep at the time and their taxes were going up because their pay was going up although their purchasing power wasn't going up so average middle class people were paying to federal taxes that they hadn't before. so when the republicans became the tax part of the tax cut santa clauses you know it caught on there were there was there was it wasn't just hey you know let's help out the help of the rich guys although it's become that but then the second piece of it was and this is where it was just masterful and it was executed by the reagan administration if you look at the entire history of the united states and you inflation adjust the dollars from the george washington administration when we were we started with the deficit we had the french a lot of money to fight the revolutionary war from then until the reagan administration there were a few bombs for the civil war the spanish-american war war war war war two but basically our deficit has always been in the neighborhood of about a trillion dollars current dollars and in fact you want to have

a deficit alexander hamilton the first treasury secretary wrote about this at some length because you want to have people you want to have something that stable that people can invest in where they can invest in their government you know a. safe place to invest so when reagan came along they were like ok if we do the tax cut thing then the deficit is going to go up now how can that be a good thing because we're republicans we're not supposed to be in favor the deficit going up but when when and if the deficit goes up you know if we can really drive the deficit up then when the democrats come into power is inevitable it will we can start yelling and screaming about the deficit and force them to cut back on the on the social programs we can force them to shoot their own santa clause and that's exactly what they did reagan took that one trillion dollar deficit it was about eight hundred billion dollars when he came into office and took it up to about three trillion by the time he left and then george herbert walker bush after him took it up to about five and then of course bill clinton brought in balanced budgets because for eight years you had a democrat in office and so the republicans were all screaming about the debt in

the deficit you know and and then george bush comes in and takes it you know up to ten trillion just massively explodes it and now again the republicans are out yelling time to shoot the democratic senate was there over the last thirty years i mean the vast majority of the. it's been republicans roughly ten trillion dollars of it has been put on by republican presidents and that gives to what the clip rush limbaugh was saying you can't beat santa claus and that's what you're going to say he was talking about you can't beat santa claus he advised republicans play there instead of cause but he didn't explicitly talk about how you know if we run up this massive debt the democrats will eventually have to cut back but that is how you end up beating santa claus's you force them across to eventually shoot them and that's what we're seeing played out here as you have and we only have a short time left by as you want to get to two quick things first of all you don't and you end your article by saying that it's time to put down the gun and not shoot santa clause how can we do this responsibly while the republicans keep historically

they did it with clinton ministration you know any welfare as we know it they did it with the obama administration last year foreseen obama to cut unemployment benefits for ninety nine weeks down to seventy four weeks as part of a compromise democrats have to stop saying ok we're going to go along with these cuts this is crazy we are a great nation we're one of the wealthiest nations in the world we can easily afford these kinds of social welfare programs and more frankly i mean our spending our government spend as a percentage of g.d.p. is about a half of what it is for most of the developed countries of the world there's all kinds of room it's just that you have to have the rich and the corporations pay their fair share and that needs to be in the democrats need to stop saying ok we'll join you in shooting santa claus or we will shoot santa claus and instead say no we're going to stand up for working people and we're going to see how this all plays out with the fiscal cliff we do know that deadline is coming up it's enjoy and shoot santa clause straight as an absolutely if your theory of the not that there of doing as good as right then that's absolutely assured santa claus fairy

thom hartmann house of the big picture and sam sachs but pressure from there sir thank you guys so much for joining me but thanks very. switching gears now since its inception the adult film industry has been mired by stereotypes some saying that adult film actresses actually have a history of sexual abuse some saying that sexually transmitted diseases are rampant in the industry while there is always some sort of truth to these stereotypes and others the industry has evolved since its birth to a career path some actors choose to make a living off of a new report gives credibility to that argument it says that female entertainers are happier more spiritually healthy and have a higher self esteem than other women the study was conducted by pennsylvania's shippensburg university texas' women's university and the adult industry medical health care foundation it was published in the journal of sex research that compares adult film actresses with women of the same race age and marital status

and if found a number of things the report concluded that there was no statistically significant difference between the groups of women that are sexually abused as a child adult film stars versus average women and also found that these performers sleep better and have more energy overall now this report isn't a case for adult film industry but it is the first major study of its kind so it is shining a light on an industry that oftentimes plays out in the shadows and then ends up on tell this and screens across the country to give us an inside look at what women in the industry actually experience i was joined earlier by adult film performer chanel preston we first discuss how women in her industry compare to average women . i actually think the successful women in the street do have a better idea of a better they have better self-esteem obviously we're exposed to a whole that and so we're running around without clothes on often and you can't do

that if you're insecure and then if you are you're not going to be successful at what you do for sure so let's talk about how you got involved in this industry there's an argument it's called the damaged goods hypothesis i'm not sure if you're aware of it and it argues that actresses involved in this industry come from desperate backgrounds and are less psychologically healthy than other women can i ask you what your background is and how you decided to enter this industry you know i grew up in a really great family i was not even a promiscuous person when i was younger i've always felt like i was very open minded and i was actually working as a counter manager at a. it is for a skin care line and i just i just was a very happy it was stressful and i ended up quitting and i had always been. a little curious about the sex industry and so i decided to make the plunge and i

became a stripper and then i was given the opportunity to travel a lot all over the u.s. and i actually met a lady that asked me if i would be interested in entering the porn industry and i initially said no but i went home and i gave it a lot of thought and i considered all the repercussions and i thought you know i actually saw a opportunity there to make a lot of money and do really well and possibly make a career and i called her back a couple weeks later and i said yeah let's do this so and then they don't have any i don't have any so there's i have no history of sexual abuse like i said a great family and they're still supportive of me. and at the end of the day are you happy with your career i am very happy i think it has actually shaped to i've become as a person i don't think that being in any other industry could've helped me become who i am and i do want to bring up one of the quotes that was from this article it says some descriptions of actresses in pornography have included attributes such as

drug addiction homelessness poverty desperation in being victims of sexual abuse some have made extreme assertions such as claiming that all women in pornography or sexually abused as children stereotypes of those involved in adult entertainment have been used to support or condemn the endace tree and to justify political views on pornography although the actual characteristics of actresses are unknown because no study of this group has actually been conducted so one of the things that i want to ask you about because this is what we have seen time after time is born and the adult film industry advocates saying that you guys are these homeless drug addicted people so let's just go through the list. that we could kind of clear up some of the thing do you have a drug addiction i know are you homeless. are you poor no would you describe yourself as desperate or being a victim of some sort of sexual abuse absolutely not so we would you describe

your fellow women in this industry as being any of those things i mean are clearly you interact with them what type of feeling have you gotten from them do they come from desperate backgrounds you know and like i said there's all different facets of the industry and they're not going to say that there aren't women that fall into that syria type because there are it is just a reality of our industry but the successful ones are not are nothing like that and if they are they will will not be successful in our industry and they will not have a career in our industry in the state in an age. that was adult film performer chanel preston and that's going to do it for the news for this week be sure to tune in next week we've got a whole new lineup in store for you pretrial hearings for bradley manning are expected to continue throughout next weekend throughout this weekend the prosecution and defense are still discussing the treatment of private first class bradley manning during his detention next week will manning's lawyer david combs

will be speaking publicly for the first time about the case and the current condition of this client r.t. we'll bring that the at that press conference and we'll update you of anything interesting comes out of it also up on deck for next week the national defense authorization act n.d.a. as it's better known has received a slew of criticism from privacy advocates the biggest argument against the act is the right of the government to indefinitely detain american citizens without a trial congress will be considering the renewal of this bill next week so the voices will be speaking a so will the voices speaking against india be heard on capitol hill we'll follow the story. and that's not the only hot button topic that's up for debate on capitol hill next week legislators are also fighting tax cuts to defense budgets and that's because they say it will result in a las of jobs for ordinary americans but does more defense money mean more american

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